bharad
07-20 12:42 PM
I have a question reg. the unfair vertical spill devised by USCIS when allocating the visa numbers after the initial allocation is completed.
If the country needs EB1 categories first then the EB2 categories and then EB3 then why did they allocate equal numbers to all the three categories initially. If they needed more EB1 or EB 2 compared to EB 3 numbers they should have given 3x of numbers to EB1, 2x of numbers to EB2, and only 1x or less than that to EB3 when doing the initial allocation itself.
Its only due to some genius person's invention that USCIS decided to implement vertical spill over instead of doing a hoirzontal spill over of the numbers which will be fair.
Now the EB2 folks are going to comeback and say that EB2 deserve more rights and all that blah blah aka the fight people give whenever somebody tries to remove the unfair quota system in India. Grow up and behave like an educated person.
You can say that EB2 folks earn more... give me a break I know many EB3 folks who earn atleast 2 times more than whan an average EB2 guy earns. Its just a matter of luck(in the current scenario) that a person got applied in EB2 or EB3 category
If the country needs EB1 categories first then the EB2 categories and then EB3 then why did they allocate equal numbers to all the three categories initially. If they needed more EB1 or EB 2 compared to EB 3 numbers they should have given 3x of numbers to EB1, 2x of numbers to EB2, and only 1x or less than that to EB3 when doing the initial allocation itself.
Its only due to some genius person's invention that USCIS decided to implement vertical spill over instead of doing a hoirzontal spill over of the numbers which will be fair.
Now the EB2 folks are going to comeback and say that EB2 deserve more rights and all that blah blah aka the fight people give whenever somebody tries to remove the unfair quota system in India. Grow up and behave like an educated person.
You can say that EB2 folks earn more... give me a break I know many EB3 folks who earn atleast 2 times more than whan an average EB2 guy earns. Its just a matter of luck(in the current scenario) that a person got applied in EB2 or EB3 category
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Naveen
05-04 07:21 PM
Guys -- A Person who files for I-140/I-485 under EB1/2/3 is considered an EB Based Principal Beneficiary. All his/her dependents are termed derivative beneficiaries...meaning they eligible for lawful permanent residence under the same employment-based preference category as the principal beneficiary. The derivatives will have all the attributes of Principal and hence counted against EB quota.
To oversimplify -- All the benefits of the Principal is passed on to the dependents. Principal is EB2 and so the child even though he is 6 months old is also eligible for EB2. hence the term Principal beneficiary and Derivative beneficiary.
To oversimplify -- All the benefits of the Principal is passed on to the dependents. Principal is EB2 and so the child even though he is 6 months old is also eligible for EB2. hence the term Principal beneficiary and Derivative beneficiary.
mygoodluck
08-14 11:57 AM
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pappu
02-01 09:43 AM
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Many of you may have questions regarding the advocacy event. To answer your questions, we are holding a conference call this weekend. An email was sent out to confirmed members today (Mar 24) with the subject line: IMPORTANT: IV Advocacy Conf Call Info. Please check your email for the conference call details and other important information.
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Thank you.
Many of you may have questions regarding the advocacy event. To answer your questions, we are holding a conference call this weekend. An email was sent out to confirmed members today (Mar 24) with the subject line: IMPORTANT: IV Advocacy Conf Call Info. Please check your email for the conference call details and other important information.
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senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
dingudi
02-18 11:07 AM
I am assuming you guys saw this:
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/USCISUpdate(biometricchanges)(17Feb08).pdf
USCIS will consolidate FPs for 485 and EADs. So if we don't receive biometrics for 485, hopefully we will get one for EAD renewal which will also serve the purpose for 485 processing.
Note: This only applies to concurrent filers of 485 and EAD.
Apahilaj,
Yes I saw that but mine was not concurrent filing. I applied for EAD couple of months after I-485 filing and have also received the EAD.Still waiting for FP though.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/USCISUpdate(biometricchanges)(17Feb08).pdf
USCIS will consolidate FPs for 485 and EADs. So if we don't receive biometrics for 485, hopefully we will get one for EAD renewal which will also serve the purpose for 485 processing.
Note: This only applies to concurrent filers of 485 and EAD.
Apahilaj,
Yes I saw that but mine was not concurrent filing. I applied for EAD couple of months after I-485 filing and have also received the EAD.Still waiting for FP though.
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nk2006
05-02 11:37 AM
Where is the relief for foreign educated professional who is filed under EB3.
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
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buddyinsd
08-31 04:21 PM
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all you freaking south indians can do is sit on your ass and code all day long .... As soon as you fellows open your mouth we all get how intelligent you guys are .... As for drawing the line between north and south - can we just seperate the telugu, kanada, tamil and malayalam people from the north and the rest of us northeners will be just fine :)
all you freaking south indians can do is sit on your ass and code all day long .... As soon as you fellows open your mouth we all get how intelligent you guys are .... As for drawing the line between north and south - can we just seperate the telugu, kanada, tamil and malayalam people from the north and the rest of us northeners will be just fine :)
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manishcp
09-10 03:25 PM
Hope very soon
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gvenkat
09-10 03:47 PM
Thats right. I don't see any issues with EB1 or EB2 movement, For gods sake EB2 came to 2005, EB1 is current. It is funny when the other poster said we need to work for EB1 also(It is current, what else you want to do there?).
I feel IV has to concentrate on EB3 now. Period.
It's simple. USCIS needs to understand it's just a plastic card and nothing else. People who have applied are going to be here no matter what.The return percentage is going to be less.
The sad part is we are treated as citizens on all aspects. Social security, Medicare, Taxes, etc. etc. But not in the real sense. So US should realsise its after all a card and some benefits to the people things wont change. No amount of lobbying to fix the whole problem is going to help. The effort has to be concentrated just for EB3-Indians. Then we can expect some relief. Becasue we are talking about people who have been wwaiting for more than 8-10 years.
In India Lifesentences in prisons dont last more than 14 years. we could beat that record here. :)
I feel IV has to concentrate on EB3 now. Period.
It's simple. USCIS needs to understand it's just a plastic card and nothing else. People who have applied are going to be here no matter what.The return percentage is going to be less.
The sad part is we are treated as citizens on all aspects. Social security, Medicare, Taxes, etc. etc. But not in the real sense. So US should realsise its after all a card and some benefits to the people things wont change. No amount of lobbying to fix the whole problem is going to help. The effort has to be concentrated just for EB3-Indians. Then we can expect some relief. Becasue we are talking about people who have been wwaiting for more than 8-10 years.
In India Lifesentences in prisons dont last more than 14 years. we could beat that record here. :)
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lutherpraveen
10-14 09:27 AM
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eb3_nepa
08-18 01:47 PM
Nope, you are wrong. Anyting spoken in this website concerns every aspirant immigrant member. You need to get that straight!
Well said!
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Imigrait
01-30 02:42 PM
Incorrect!
3/10 year applies ONLY for illegal presence and not out of status. The illegal presence starts after I-94 date. I think one of Pappu's blog covers illegal presence details.
However, for I-485 approval, section 245(k) covers out of status for 180 cumulative calendar days since last lawful admission in US.
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US Citizen of Indian Origin
Have a question. My current I-94 is valid till May 2009(entered on AP last time). What happens after May2009? Do I need to get another I-94 and how?
3/10 year applies ONLY for illegal presence and not out of status. The illegal presence starts after I-94 date. I think one of Pappu's blog covers illegal presence details.
However, for I-485 approval, section 245(k) covers out of status for 180 cumulative calendar days since last lawful admission in US.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
Have a question. My current I-94 is valid till May 2009(entered on AP last time). What happens after May2009? Do I need to get another I-94 and how?
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starving_dog
06-27 07:03 AM
Another reason for optimism, read his last three entries...
http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
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transpass
08-23 04:12 PM
Can you please let us know the long list of Do's and Dont's..That would provide a lot of info...
Thanks
Dos and Don'ts after getting the GC? If so, there is already a thread, the link for which is....
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum95-life-after-greencard/25349-life-after-gc-dos-and-donots.html
Thanks
Dos and Don'ts after getting the GC? If so, there is already a thread, the link for which is....
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum95-life-after-greencard/25349-life-after-gc-dos-and-donots.html
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nitlsu
10-25 12:34 AM
I am sure that IV has a game plan (and I sincerely hope I am not wrong here). As a matter of interest I have been regularly monitoring NumbersUSA and FAIR websites and they have already set out an agenda with a list of action items for their members. This includes passage in the Senate of restrictionist bills like H.R. 6061, H.R. 6094, H.R. 6095 etc. In fact they have notified their constituents that Congress will be holding a lame duck session beginning November 13th and that they should keep up the pressure on their legislators.
We need something similar to this - Do all the IV constituents even know that there's a lame duck session coming up? - Probably not. The core team needs to do a better job in communicating time lines and action items for IV members to act upon. We are ready to jump into the fray again however as IV's mission statement rightly says - we need our efforts to be organized and directed for maximum impact. Even if we are out-numbered 400-1 (or whatever that number is) by the restrictionists - we need to make the politicians aware that our voice needs to be heard too.
For starters - we could at least have a webfax similar to the AILA one urging immigration reform during the lame duck session (or have that AILA link displayed more prominently on the IV site as an action item)
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We need something similar to this - Do all the IV constituents even know that there's a lame duck session coming up? - Probably not. The core team needs to do a better job in communicating time lines and action items for IV members to act upon. We are ready to jump into the fray again however as IV's mission statement rightly says - we need our efforts to be organized and directed for maximum impact. Even if we are out-numbered 400-1 (or whatever that number is) by the restrictionists - we need to make the politicians aware that our voice needs to be heard too.
For starters - we could at least have a webfax similar to the AILA one urging immigration reform during the lame duck session (or have that AILA link displayed more prominently on the IV site as an action item)
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Kodi
07-30 09:54 AM
Just received an email from CRIS, our I-131 was approved. Nothing on EAD.
mqualique
05-01 02:22 PM
My good faith best understanding is FB2 is not far behind. please refer VB.
Even though right now FB2 is not far behind the gap will progressively increase due to post given below. Consider 2 glasses half full. If you pour 50% water from 1 glass to another 1 glass will be 75% full(EB) and other glass will be 25%full(FB).
Even if FB 2 almost has same priority date as EB 2 or 3 once the EB dependents quota gets counted against FB quota almost half of the EB backlog would move to FB which will cause progression in EB dates and retrogression in FB dates. Anyway I think simple1 point is definitely a good point and worthy of further discussion and clarification from attorneys.
Even though right now FB2 is not far behind the gap will progressively increase due to post given below. Consider 2 glasses half full. If you pour 50% water from 1 glass to another 1 glass will be 75% full(EB) and other glass will be 25%full(FB).
Even if FB 2 almost has same priority date as EB 2 or 3 once the EB dependents quota gets counted against FB quota almost half of the EB backlog would move to FB which will cause progression in EB dates and retrogression in FB dates. Anyway I think simple1 point is definitely a good point and worthy of further discussion and clarification from attorneys.
alterego
10-08 09:14 PM
None of this damn crap is fair. There are 3 lines in the green card queue. 1) Labor/PERM line, further subdivided on the basis of BEC, PERM, Employer willingness, exempt(NIW) etc. 2) the I-140 Line and 3) the I-485 line. These lines each have inconsistent patterns depending upon the winds of the day, a few years ago, LC/BEC lines were long, employers were less willing to sponsor green cards, and there was no I-140 PP processing, now all of a sudden PERM is there, PP of 140 came into being, and 485 became an eternal wait and country quotas came into being. For those that got screwed with BECs then PP 140 got removed when they were ready to file and now PD retrogressed into the stone age, it sure would seem like non sense for the guy who got PERM in 2 weeks, then PP 140 in 10 days and filed 485 in he July fiasco. Nevertheless you are only speaking in terms of degrees of getting screwed, since all are being done so by an unpredictable and unreliable system.
None of this damn crap is fair, we all know it. The only fair thing is for this country to decide who it wants and needs and sort them out ASAP. A wait of 2yrs, 5yrs or 10 yrs is immaterial, all of the above are ridiculous in EB immigration, degrees of unfairness is splitting hairs if you ask me. Up to 2 yrs is understandable, but beyond that implies a broken system which we need to lobby to fix. If we can all agree on that then, we have a platform to move forward with, otherwise we will get nowhere. When you average out the way most immigrants came to this land....................all of us are way more contributing and deserving, lets try to remind people of that as well as our future potential.
None of this damn crap is fair, we all know it. The only fair thing is for this country to decide who it wants and needs and sort them out ASAP. A wait of 2yrs, 5yrs or 10 yrs is immaterial, all of the above are ridiculous in EB immigration, degrees of unfairness is splitting hairs if you ask me. Up to 2 yrs is understandable, but beyond that implies a broken system which we need to lobby to fix. If we can all agree on that then, we have a platform to move forward with, otherwise we will get nowhere. When you average out the way most immigrants came to this land....................all of us are way more contributing and deserving, lets try to remind people of that as well as our future potential.
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