prashantkh
06-23 05:06 PM
I agree, another argument in support is that if the situation of skilled legal immigrants does not improve many of them may consider other options like Canada, Australia, UK, NZ or even going back home. The employers most likely will outsource the jobs to other countries and once that happens that position is permanently gone from US. Hoewver, if an immigrant is working here the position is still here in US and can be taken by a citizen or a resident here if the immigrant workers leaves the job position.
PK
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
PK
This myth has never been successfully countered in the media or any other PR or lobbying channel by the legal immigration crowd.
The standard line amounts to this:
We are highly skilled we are legal and we are stuck and dont deserve this.
This is not good PR. Nobody cares about this.. it will get us nowhere..
We need to have a standard message apart from all other humint crap..
1) legals cannot undercut US jobseekers because of strict labor laws. Employers are paying a premium in wages as well as legal fees to retain their legal alien workforce. IT would be foolhardy of them to go through the hassle if local talent was easily available.
2) legals are in most cases paying taxes for which they may never realize the benifits like social security.
We need to let it be known in a firm polite manner that
1) we are giving more than we are getting and are not free loaders
2) we are not harming or displacing anyone.
I dont think this can be perceived as tryng to distance ourselves from undocumented workers. There are rare moments when the media does focus on legal immigrants as a group lets make the most of it.
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07-09 05:17 PM
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10-27 12:21 PM
Just to clarify, it is just one person (The Ombudsman), not "folks". My previous comment was meant to illustrate the absurdity of such a suggestion.
For those who did not get my reference to "Ed Anger" of the Weekly World News:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News
Are folks on this thread suggesting we contact (communicate our plans to !!!) numbersusa? They are not going to listen to us, I can guarantee you that --- even if we tone down our demands! They might use our plans to develop a more effective strategy for themselves; they hate us from the bottom of their hearts. This is the most ridiculous and impractical thing I've heard in a while.
For those who did not get my reference to "Ed Anger" of the Weekly World News:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News
Are folks on this thread suggesting we contact (communicate our plans to !!!) numbersusa? They are not going to listen to us, I can guarantee you that --- even if we tone down our demands! They might use our plans to develop a more effective strategy for themselves; they hate us from the bottom of their hearts. This is the most ridiculous and impractical thing I've heard in a while.
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fightnow
07-06 07:52 PM
I mentioned to the police that most participants are from China and India. This is true. Both are the main victims of backlog and what so ever.
amitjoey
07-09 04:34 PM
I sent the pdf and a write up to reporters in my local area.
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mnq1979
09-22 09:38 PM
Today i received mine and my wife Receipt # for I-485 application which was received by NSC on 23 July. However the receipts that i received is from
California Service center as they start with WACXXXXX.
My lawyer also applied for the work permit for myself and my spouce but i havent received any receipt of that applications. I did not confirmed with my lawyer yet whether he has received any receipts or not.
I cheked the status of my I-485 application and it says that they have transfered our case to TSC.
The receipt date on the notice is sep. 15 2007 and the notice date is
sep. 18, 2007.
I belong to EB3/ROW category.
California Service center as they start with WACXXXXX.
My lawyer also applied for the work permit for myself and my spouce but i havent received any receipt of that applications. I did not confirmed with my lawyer yet whether he has received any receipts or not.
I cheked the status of my I-485 application and it says that they have transfered our case to TSC.
The receipt date on the notice is sep. 15 2007 and the notice date is
sep. 18, 2007.
I belong to EB3/ROW category.
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sankap
07-10 12:19 PM
@desi3933:
What's a "bona fide" job? Where did you see that a job needs to be"bona fide?"
Also, if you're self-employed, why can't you show that's a "legitimate" business? Who's asking for a business plan--and why should that be difficult to make if you're self-employed? Please, let's not *assume* things. We should base our opinions only on facts and evidence.
Its not ability to pay issue? The main point is to show that job is real, and bonafine.
May I ask, how do you plan to demonstate that job offered in self employment is same/similar to I-140 job and it is bonafide job offer?
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What's a "bona fide" job? Where did you see that a job needs to be"bona fide?"
Also, if you're self-employed, why can't you show that's a "legitimate" business? Who's asking for a business plan--and why should that be difficult to make if you're self-employed? Please, let's not *assume* things. We should base our opinions only on facts and evidence.
Its not ability to pay issue? The main point is to show that job is real, and bonafine.
May I ask, how do you plan to demonstate that job offered in self employment is same/similar to I-140 job and it is bonafide job offer?
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hotammo
08-26 09:02 AM
Hi All,
I got mine and my wife green cards on 21st august, Thursday.
Our case was approved on August 12th.
According to the trend I have seen it takes about 1.5 weeks to get your greencard in hand from the day you get the card production email.
Went to the Social Security office on 22nd. (I had actually calculated the day when I would get the cards looking at the trend on IV, so I had planned for it.)
The moment they see the GC (with a replacement card application of course) they know what to do. I think they do it very frequently.
Should get the new Social Security cards (which do NOT have a line at the top that says DHS authorization required to work), in a week or so.
Also I got I-131 DENIED email 2 days after my 485 was approved (I had applied for renewal). Yesterday got the letter form USCIS in the mail for the denial of I-131.
I got mine and my wife green cards on 21st august, Thursday.
Our case was approved on August 12th.
According to the trend I have seen it takes about 1.5 weeks to get your greencard in hand from the day you get the card production email.
Went to the Social Security office on 22nd. (I had actually calculated the day when I would get the cards looking at the trend on IV, so I had planned for it.)
The moment they see the GC (with a replacement card application of course) they know what to do. I think they do it very frequently.
Should get the new Social Security cards (which do NOT have a line at the top that says DHS authorization required to work), in a week or so.
Also I got I-131 DENIED email 2 days after my 485 was approved (I had applied for renewal). Yesterday got the letter form USCIS in the mail for the denial of I-131.
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chi_shark
07-09 02:55 PM
I have not heard of any rejection. But, the fact that you're receving 1099-MISC means that you're not full time. In fact, you're not even an employee for the company. If you receive an RFE, I assume you'll need to produce paystubs (which the OP don't have). In addition, you won't even get 1099-MISC until the year end. In short, no proof to overturn RFE.
IF the company can produce such a letter, technically it is a fraud since the OP is NOT a full-time employee. Replying to RFE with no proof and fraud intend won't fly.
Fittan
payslips are not "required" only thing needed is a proof that you have been offered a job that meets all those conditions we all know about. technically, you dont even need to be working when you get RFE... ac21 memo allows self employment very clearly and distinctly. however, it also allows for two things: 1) it allows the IO to ask whatever questions they want to ensure that the job is legitimate and not a fraud. 2) it allows the IO to investigate if there was truly an intention between the beneficiary and the petitioner who applied for I-140 at the time of filing for I-140 AND at the time of filing I-485 (if not con-current). Fortunately, the IO is limited to investigating all this only by means of RFE (i.e. he cannot send the FBI or CIA behind you).
the problem for you and for me is that all this shit has not been proven in court... will you be the first person to take this risk? if you respond to RFE and then they deny your 485 and then you fight a case to overturn that denial, then it will set a precedent in case law that can be applied to all of us... so, please do it and let us know! :-)
i incorporated last year but did not do any business... instead i took a full time job with a well known company... I am shutting down my inc this year... i have already responded to an RFE with an EVL from my employer... i wish they could clarify on this policy... as per AC21 memo, they dont have any problem with self employment...
IF the company can produce such a letter, technically it is a fraud since the OP is NOT a full-time employee. Replying to RFE with no proof and fraud intend won't fly.
Fittan
payslips are not "required" only thing needed is a proof that you have been offered a job that meets all those conditions we all know about. technically, you dont even need to be working when you get RFE... ac21 memo allows self employment very clearly and distinctly. however, it also allows for two things: 1) it allows the IO to ask whatever questions they want to ensure that the job is legitimate and not a fraud. 2) it allows the IO to investigate if there was truly an intention between the beneficiary and the petitioner who applied for I-140 at the time of filing for I-140 AND at the time of filing I-485 (if not con-current). Fortunately, the IO is limited to investigating all this only by means of RFE (i.e. he cannot send the FBI or CIA behind you).
the problem for you and for me is that all this shit has not been proven in court... will you be the first person to take this risk? if you respond to RFE and then they deny your 485 and then you fight a case to overturn that denial, then it will set a precedent in case law that can be applied to all of us... so, please do it and let us know! :-)
i incorporated last year but did not do any business... instead i took a full time job with a well known company... I am shutting down my inc this year... i have already responded to an RFE with an EVL from my employer... i wish they could clarify on this policy... as per AC21 memo, they dont have any problem with self employment...
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senthil1
03-10 02:54 PM
Any lobbying for immigration is tough at the time of recession. I think you are trying to do advocacy effort. Without getting approval from core IV group it will not be any use as advocacy effort only will not work. Senators will note your concerns and will act only if some bill is introduced. You need lobbying with advocacy effort for changing any law. Lobbyists will lobby only at right time as if they do in wrong time it will backfire.
This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
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07-05 03:32 PM
Great!! People are already talking about the flowers to USCIS. By the way, there are flower websites, with same day delivery.
I have convinced a few people at work to do this. Their point is, if we really want to do this, let's do it in a way that works. After receiving a few deliveries, USCIS will get the idea and direct it's lobby security to refuse all further flower deliveries. What's our plan for that situation?
How did the people who delivered nuts to CBS make it happen? The delivery was actually done via UPS. It's difficult to refuse a UPS packet in the security lobby! Should we send chocolates via UPS instead? It will be much more difficult to refuse deliveries of chocolates.
I have convinced a few people at work to do this. Their point is, if we really want to do this, let's do it in a way that works. After receiving a few deliveries, USCIS will get the idea and direct it's lobby security to refuse all further flower deliveries. What's our plan for that situation?
How did the people who delivered nuts to CBS make it happen? The delivery was actually done via UPS. It's difficult to refuse a UPS packet in the security lobby! Should we send chocolates via UPS instead? It will be much more difficult to refuse deliveries of chocolates.
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chanduv23
03-12 07:02 AM
Most people have a lack of understanding of the situation. Things may not get better, things may get worse. EB3 is further retrogressing, EB2 will not move further, another market slump expected, more layoffs getting announced (though may not be in high skilled sector, layoffs does matter in decision making), companies running out of funds, body shoppers reducing salaries and increasing their cuts .......
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
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Devils_Advocate
03-07 01:14 PM
You guys can scream, cry, sue, jump, sing, dance whatever, no one is going to touch any country cap legislation or any pro immi legislation till about 2011-12 at least (though i m sure it wont happen then either)
And they will never allow "no country cap" either-ways, call it unconstitutional or whatever, i am being realistic, they have quota on the diversity visa for a reason they think is appropriate, and they have a quota on the EB system for those same reasons.
Your only hope to get the "country cap" cleared up is that the Point based system gets through , like the one in CIR 2007, which i am sure will not happen before 2012, if it ever happens.
And they will never allow "no country cap" either-ways, call it unconstitutional or whatever, i am being realistic, they have quota on the diversity visa for a reason they think is appropriate, and they have a quota on the EB system for those same reasons.
Your only hope to get the "country cap" cleared up is that the Point based system gets through , like the one in CIR 2007, which i am sure will not happen before 2012, if it ever happens.
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quiquincho
03-06 06:22 PM
You wouldn't have felt that way if you were EB-3 India sittinig for last 8 years, reading Visa Bulletins every months, just to find it still in Oct'2001...And if you ask USCIS what's going on they ask you 5K.
I don't think you can tell if I had felt that way, the same way I cannot tell how you feel, but I understand your pain to some extent - I have been waiting for 2 years and probably have to wait a few more. All I am saying is that the country cap policy is not a form of discrimination.:)
I don't think you can tell if I had felt that way, the same way I cannot tell how you feel, but I understand your pain to some extent - I have been waiting for 2 years and probably have to wait a few more. All I am saying is that the country cap policy is not a form of discrimination.:)
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Thanks for posting your experience. Did you apply for your SIN and your PR card? Do you (or anyone else) have any info on how that's done or what the procedure is?
- Once you complete landing procedure at POE and provide your Canadian address, PR card will come automatically at your address in mail
- SIN (number printout) you can get instantly at any of the ServiceCanada centers. In Toronto, they have plenty of these centers in downtown (Bay street, lake shore blvd, yonge st ...). Card comes in mail
- Once you complete landing procedure at POE and provide your Canadian address, PR card will come automatically at your address in mail
- SIN (number printout) you can get instantly at any of the ServiceCanada centers. In Toronto, they have plenty of these centers in downtown (Bay street, lake shore blvd, yonge st ...). Card comes in mail
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manderson
03-28 02:42 PM
I have mulled over different options in my head for a long time. Here are some things I came up with:
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
the Canada option and is not bad. you can get it in 1 year plus it will take less energy than it takes you now to remain depressed.
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
the Canada option and is not bad. you can get it in 1 year plus it will take less energy than it takes you now to remain depressed.
mrdelhiite
09-28 08:43 AM
FYI sent wife's application on August 11th .. reached NSC on 14th .. checks got chshed yesterday. Online status says application was picked on Sep 25th.
My application was sent on 2nd July reached July 3rd and have received recepit noice earlier.
-M
My application was sent on 2nd July reached July 3rd and have received recepit noice earlier.
-M
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